Comments on: Man Arrested For Not Showing His Circuit City Reciept, Driver’s License

By: Brian

Brian — Sat, 29 Sep 2007 21:11:34 +0000

“If you don’t want it happing then don’t shop at places that do it.”

I agree, but if the store doesn’t like when it “happs” to them then they should move to another country that doesn’t have laws protecting human rights.

By: Jeremy

Jeremy — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:57:08 +0000

Check the update above for the outcome of the case.

By: Bill

Bill — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 08:11:57 +0000

its 1.86% with door checkers….if we take them away…it can and will go up….

By: Cynical Synapse

Cynical Synapse — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 02:31:25 +0000

First the easy part: Yes, stores have a right to inspect your parcels, especially if it’s posted policy on the door. And yes, you have a right to decline and they better be sure if they detain you in an effort to exercise their right. The rights thing is the subject of a lot of comments on various blogs about this subject. But that’s not the real issue here.

What’s at stake is an erosion of rights and expectation of privacy as a result of a “go-with-the-flow” mentality. Millions of law-abiding citizens take off their shoes at the airport because of one alleged shoe bomber. We now have restrictions on liquids going through security at the airport because the Europeans thought they might have had a potential threat of this type. And we tolerate the “guilty-until-proven-innocent” treatment from retailers. These are all ineffectual or unwarranted intrusions we are subjected to in the name of increased safety and security.

Statistics show retail fraud accounts for only 1.86% of total revenue. Why punish the 98.34% of honest customers with a “trust-but-verify” mentality? I don’t advocate pushing the issue to the point of confrontation with the police, but I do think it’s time we stood our ground. That’s why I decline the Invasion of the Receipt Snatchers now.

By: Doesn't Matter

Doesn't Matter — Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:31:13 +0000

The problem here is they are not in violation of your 4th admendment rights. They are allowd to check your bags upon entering and leaving the store since they aren’t acting as the government. If you don’t like them searching you, don’t shop there. I am on your side for the obstruction of justice part. What if you didn’t have a license to begin with? They can’t demand to see a license if you aren’t driving.

By: Jeremy

Jeremy — Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:19:00 +0000

@ Bill:

As we all do though I still think little battles, like when Comcast screws up the billing YET AGAIN, still need to be fought. The unanswered question (which it would be nice if Michael would give us another update sometime), is whether or not he was right that he doesn’t have to show his merchandise. Granted, even if he IS right, the store can refuse to serve him in the future (I think).

By: Bill

Bill — Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:16:31 +0000

I do feel there are a lot bigger problems then showing someone proof of perches at a store….

By: Jeremy

Jeremy — Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:01:41 +0000

@ Bill:

“If you don’t want it happing then don’t shop at places that do it.”

You say that like it’s so easy. If I had one complaint about your approach, it would be that you think that because there are worse problems, we shouldn’t complain about the “little” ones. You say that we should shop somewhere where they don’t do this. Where would that be exactly? When all stores have the same policies, then do you still have a reasonable choice?

As for the picture you posted, the question now is whether or not that notice is binding or not.

And because of Noah, now I wonder what would happen if you immediately put your merchandise in your backpack and walked out

By: Bill

Bill — Mon, 17 Sep 2007 06:00:26 +0000

http://www.flickr.com/photos/88727523@N00/?saved=1

By: Bill

Bill — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 08:58:02 +0000

Ok, I have to come clean. I worked in a Casino for 22 years from floor security, to cameras, to head of security. We can hear dirty thoughts your girlfriends whispers in your ear if we want. You wanna talk about an invasion of privacy lets talk. A DVD in a bag is a joke! If you don’t want it happing then don’t shop at places that do it. Maybe they will get the picture and stop doing it. Put everything behind lock and key and then have you complain about not being able to look at the product. Or you can complain about the jacked up cost because the business has to make up for the money they lost. Over all this complaint seems absurd to me. If any of us owned our own store and constantly people are walking out the with thing didn’t pay for what are you going to do to stop it?